Blerim Dzemaili

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cocoliso1
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Postby cocoliso1 » 20 Aug 2006, 21:50

If someone know the place of birth of this player?
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Postby keith » 20 Aug 2006, 23:52

He was born in Macedonia but to-date I have been unable to find out in which town/city.
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Mike
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Postby Mike » 21 Aug 2006, 00:48

This is a general ''problem'' in Swiss football journalism when researching. One hardly finds birth places in player profiles, mostly profiles contain the player's ''Stammklub'' (player's first youth club).

This has to do, I believe, with the fact that in Swiss passports one doesn't have the place of birth in it, but the ''Heimatort'' or ''Bürgerort''. This expression can't be translated with "home town'', as it is the place where the father's ancestors originally come from, and is, these days, seldom the place of birth or the place where one grew up. It is a legal term that has it's roots in the mediaeval times... one of these weird peculiarities of Switzerland... ;-)
Ergo, the place of birth doesn't seem to be important in Switzerland...


cheers
Mike
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cocoliso1
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Postby cocoliso1 » 22 Aug 2006, 12:41

thank you for your help, found the players birth place turned in one of my difficult tasks to complete my world cup archives, but may be for that have turn it in one of my interesting field of investigation due the amazing facts that you can found. thanks again and if you have any information please just let me know
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Mike
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Postby Mike » 22 Aug 2006, 18:06

I wrote FC Zurich an e-mail. Reply: "Detovo"

So I believe that Dzemaili was born in Tetovo, Macedonia


cheers
Mike
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cocoliso1
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Postby cocoliso1 » 23 Aug 2006, 01:34

thats great thank you again
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bukovi
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Postby bukovi » 24 Aug 2006, 23:13

Mike wrote:This is a general ''problem'' in Swiss football journalism when researching. One hardly finds birth places in player profiles, mostly profiles contain the player's ''Stammklub'' (player's first youth club).

This has to do, I believe, with the fact that in Swiss passports one doesn't have the place of birth in it, but the ''Heimatort'' or ''Bürgerort''. This expression can't be translated with "home town'', as it is the place where the father's ancestors originally come from, and is, these days, seldom the place of birth or the place where one grew up. It is a legal term that has it's roots in the mediaeval times... one of these weird peculiarities of Switzerland... ;-)
Ergo, the place of birth doesn't seem to be important in Switzerland...


cheers
"Mike"


You're damned right "Mike".... It's always a problem.

Today I was reading a quite useless book "Football Vaudois 1903-2003" and discovered that Frankie Sechehaye was born and grew up in... Mozambique and never find it in any normal Swiss source he is "bourgeois de Genève" independently from his birthplace...
We need confirmation however. Don't we?
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Postby cocoliso1 » 25 Aug 2006, 18:38

I think to, I got him born in Geneve, I never see any thing about Mozambique.
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